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AND THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A FUNNY MEME EVENTUALLY, TOO... MY RESPONSE TO CAPSFRI THIS WEEK (http://vc-media.dreamwidth.org/223337.html) WENT ON TOO LONG, AS USUAL.
OMG TORI. I FEEL LIKE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY MAKES IT MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN, AND YET NOT DISCUSSING IT LEAVES US EMOTIONALLY UNPREPARED. WE NEED TO BE PREPARED. IT COULD HAPPEN. MATER THINKS IT'S WHAT WE WANT (THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS FOR THE MAYFAIR X-OVER) AND, DEEP DOWN, I DO THINK SHE WANTS US TO BE HAPPY.
...WHICH BEGS THE FOLLOWUP QUESTION, WERE THOSE WEREWOLVES HE KILLED??!! WOULD THIS WOLF GIFT SERIES EVER INCLUDE A MENTION OF A CERTAIN BLOND 20 YR OLD DUDE ARMED WITH A PACK OF HUNTING DOGS AND MEDIEVAL WEAPONRY TAKING ON A PACK OF 8 WEREWOLVES? I AM NOT A BIG WEREWOLF AFICIONADO, BUT I THINK SAID 20 YR OLD, ALTHOUGH A SEASONED HUNTER, WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE A FORMIDABLE OPPONENT FOR 8 WEREWOLVES.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? OH YES...
THIS IS A TOUGHIE BC LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A WEREWOLF-GIRL. CAN'T SEPARATE THE BESTIALITY ASPECT... I'M GOING TO TAKE A WILD GUESS THAT IF THEY CAN BE SEXY, AND THEY ARE FUNCTIONING ON AN INTELLECTUAL LEVEL, LESTAT WOULD TRY TO DATE ONE. HE'S A SENSUALIST, AFTER ALL. AT THE VERY LEAST HE'D WANT TO TRY THEIR BLOOD FOR FLAVOR COMPARISON.
IN GENERAL THO, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THE VC WOULD JUST ACCEPT THIS SPECIES WITH OPEN ARMS. THERE WOULD BE A LONG TRIAL PERIOD OF TRUST-BUILDING EXERCISES. I THINK LOUIS WOULD BE THE ONE THE WEREWOLVES'D REALLY STRUGGLE TO CONVINCE OF THEIR GOOD INTENTIONS/BEHAVIOR, SINCE HE DEALT WITH AND CUT DOWN A NUMBER OF THOSE UNDER-DEVELOPED ("RETARDED" WOULD BE TOO GENTLE A WORD HERE) VAMPIRES WHO WERE EVEN LESS THAN HUMAN, THEY WERE WALKING ACCIDENTS.
I HAVE THIS VISION OF LESTAT SEDUCING ARIEL THE LITTLE MERMAID, NOW. IS THAT SOMETHING I SHOULD FEEL SHAMEFUL ABOUT OR CONTINUE TO ALLOW MY CREATIVE ENGINE TO DEVELOP? HMMMM.
WHAT WOULD THE VISITATION OF INTELLIGENT ALIENS (LIKE IN 'THE ABYSS,' NOT THE SIGOURNEY WEAVER KIND) DO TO LOUIS? IF THEIR PRESENCE REVEALED THAT THERE REALLY IS NO GOD, HE'D FINALLY HAVE TO GIVE UP ON ALL THE RELIGIOUS SUFFERING. WHAT WOULD HE BE WITHOUT THE SELF-FLAGELLATION??
IT'S PROBABLY A STRETCH TO SAY A VC/WEREWOLF CROSSOVER IS INEVITABLE BUT GIVEN THE DISASTROUS WRECK MAYFAIR CROSSOVER, IT'S FAIR TO ASSUME IT'S POSSIBLE.
OMG TORI. I FEEL LIKE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY MAKES IT MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN, AND YET NOT DISCUSSING IT LEAVES US EMOTIONALLY UNPREPARED. WE NEED TO BE PREPARED. IT COULD HAPPEN. MATER THINKS IT'S WHAT WE WANT (THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS FOR THE MAYFAIR X-OVER) AND, DEEP DOWN, I DO THINK SHE WANTS US TO BE HAPPY.
WHAT WOULD LESTAT MAKE OF EROTIC WEREWOLVES? ESPECIALLY SINCE HE'S, YOU KNOW, THE WOLF KILLER?
...WHICH BEGS THE FOLLOWUP QUESTION, WERE THOSE WEREWOLVES HE KILLED??!! WOULD THIS WOLF GIFT SERIES EVER INCLUDE A MENTION OF A CERTAIN BLOND 20 YR OLD DUDE ARMED WITH A PACK OF HUNTING DOGS AND MEDIEVAL WEAPONRY TAKING ON A PACK OF 8 WEREWOLVES? I AM NOT A BIG WEREWOLF AFICIONADO, BUT I THINK SAID 20 YR OLD, ALTHOUGH A SEASONED HUNTER, WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE A FORMIDABLE OPPONENT FOR 8 WEREWOLVES.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? OH YES...
WHAT WOULD LESTAT MAKE OF EROTIC WEREWOLVES?
THIS IS A TOUGHIE BC LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A WEREWOLF-GIRL. CAN'T SEPARATE THE BESTIALITY ASPECT... I'M GOING TO TAKE A WILD GUESS THAT IF THEY CAN BE SEXY, AND THEY ARE FUNCTIONING ON AN INTELLECTUAL LEVEL, LESTAT WOULD TRY TO DATE ONE. HE'S A SENSUALIST, AFTER ALL. AT THE VERY LEAST HE'D WANT TO TRY THEIR BLOOD FOR FLAVOR COMPARISON.
IN GENERAL THO, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THE VC WOULD JUST ACCEPT THIS SPECIES WITH OPEN ARMS. THERE WOULD BE A LONG TRIAL PERIOD OF TRUST-BUILDING EXERCISES. I THINK LOUIS WOULD BE THE ONE THE WEREWOLVES'D REALLY STRUGGLE TO CONVINCE OF THEIR GOOD INTENTIONS/BEHAVIOR, SINCE HE DEALT WITH AND CUT DOWN A NUMBER OF THOSE UNDER-DEVELOPED ("RETARDED" WOULD BE TOO GENTLE A WORD HERE) VAMPIRES WHO WERE EVEN LESS THAN HUMAN, THEY WERE WALKING ACCIDENTS.
AS FOR MONSTERS, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE VAMPIRES ENCOUNTER SOMETHING WEIRD THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE IS REAL, LIKE MERMAIDS OR ALIENS OR SOMETHING.
I HAVE THIS VISION OF LESTAT SEDUCING ARIEL THE LITTLE MERMAID, NOW. IS THAT SOMETHING I SHOULD FEEL SHAMEFUL ABOUT OR CONTINUE TO ALLOW MY CREATIVE ENGINE TO DEVELOP? HMMMM.
WHAT WOULD THE VISITATION OF INTELLIGENT ALIENS (LIKE IN 'THE ABYSS,' NOT THE SIGOURNEY WEAVER KIND) DO TO LOUIS? IF THEIR PRESENCE REVEALED THAT THERE REALLY IS NO GOD, HE'D FINALLY HAVE TO GIVE UP ON ALL THE RELIGIOUS SUFFERING. WHAT WOULD HE BE WITHOUT THE SELF-FLAGELLATION??
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Date: 2013-09-14 01:39 am (UTC)Ditto. I may have gotten used to the concept of erotic bloodsucking... but werewolf sex borders on zoophilia, and I simply REFUSE to go there. *shudder*
And I'd LOVE to see Louis give up on religious suffering. As long as it doesn't result in suicide... *sigh*
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Date: 2013-09-16 12:31 am (UTC)I think it's the religious suffering that MAKES him suicidal. If he gave up on it, the tension between him and Lestat would evaporate! If Louis gave up on religious suffering, would he basically be a less psychotic Nicki? Nicki didn't have the religious suffering. We don't know how he really felt about killing... but he seemed to be a pretty passionate writer/performer/etc. Didn't seem to have any religious hangups. He was twisted in his own special way, aside from religion.
On the subject that we agree on, which is anti-zoophilia: Yeah, I've actually been TRYING to come up with SOMETHING smutty between our VC and werewolves, and every time, this is the thought process:
- Which VC character would be lusty enough for this? David? Nah. Lestat! Hawt! Awesome. Okay.
- Werewolf... um.... they're hairy.... sometimes in dude shape... sometimes in four-legged doggie shape....
- Scene: ummmmm.... Night, somewhere, obviously... indoors? outdoors? Let's think about that later...
- Is werewolf in dude shape or doggie shape? Ummmm.... if in dude shape, that's sorta boring, could just be a dude at that point.... or it could be a lady-were-wolf... still boring in lady shape...
- Let's try werewolf in doggie shape, let's try that... because it's NOT boring.
- Lestat + werewolf in doggie shape... ummmm... (they stand there, sizing eachother up)
- Anatomically, how could this work or be hot in any conceivable way? Werewolf scratches itself with a paw. Lestat looks back at fanfic author with pouty face, psychically projecting: What did I do to deserve this punishment??
- This is FAILURE. I give up.
Maybe this would be different if I attempted to read the Wolf Crap, erm, Gift, but I just can't do it. Especially after skimming the recaps here, these are Tori's, right? It seems awful. http://raidingwindmills.dreamwidth.org/tag/recaps
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Date: 2013-09-16 03:27 am (UTC)Some people become suicidal after losing their faith - so that's what I was referring to. And Louis likes to suffer. Lestat is all too right when he tells him: "how you love your precious guilt!" If that guilt was suddenly gone, the resulting emptiness might become a whole another disaster area...
Werewolf scratches itself with a paw. Lestat looks back at fanfic author with pouty face, psychically projecting: What did I do to deserve this punishment??
Ahaha yes. My thoughts exactly. Unless, you know, Mojo turns out to be a were-dog, and suddenly transforms into a ruggedly handsome lumberjack, or something...;D
Yes, I have read those Wolf Gift recaps, and I am NOT willing to put myself through the torment of reading the actual books either...